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This is great news!

Hopefully it will integrate natively with KMS like WM does.
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We'll have to wait until June to find out....

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HoosierMac wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 12:04

We'll have to wait until June to find out....


Your organization can apply for and pay $299 for the Enterprise program and get a beta of the iPhone 2.0 software for testing now-ish.

Our org has applied and we hope to get some early testing in.

More info here: http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/details.html

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Since my organization is Me, and I'm not a developer AND I don't have an iphone (yet) I'll pass. I am downloading the SDK however so will poke around.

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Wow, so the best way of getting Microsoft out of your organization is to now use Microsoft's (paid-for license) transport on your Apple device to an emulated Microsoft server?

Man, after 15 long years of sticking with and evangelizing Apple technologies, I have now officially seen it all.

Just please tell me it ends with the iPhone, and that Kerio will get their CalDAV act together -- I quit if it means rolling out Entourage to 260 users.

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Apple probably had 2 ideas with this:

1) they would make more money by selling more iphones if they bit the bullet and licensed AS.

2) They could probably kill off windows mobile and or RIM by doing this. Both BB and WinMO have strengths with businesses however anything else just sucks on them.

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monsterfreecity wrote on Thu, 06 March 2008 18:40


Just please tell me it ends with the iPhone, and that Kerio will get their CalDAV act together


What's wrong with CalDAV on Kerio?

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First of all, I should be clear that I am *thrilled* that KMS supports CalDAV at all, that Kerio has proven themselves to by very Mac-savvy and -friendly, and that I love working with KMS. I just wish KMS's CalDAV was a little more fleshed out vis a vis iCal, and integrated better with the iPhone.

Search for the other CalDAV forums, and you will see that Public Folders calendars have deal-crushing limitations under KMS that group calendars being served by OS X Leopard Server do not have. One set of access rights -- the most restrictive one -- is applied to ALL public calendars regardless of how you set them on each calendar, meaning you cannot have different calendars for different groups, unless you are doing all authoring in the web client, or unless everybody can write to everything.

This limitation does not exist in group calendars served by OS X Leopard Server (which be worth mentioning but for the disparity between the way KMS and Leopard serve stuff to iCal).
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monsterfreecity wrote on Fri, 07 March 2008 08:27

First of all, I should be clear that I am *thrilled* that KMS supports CalDAV at all, that Kerio has proven themselves to by very Mac-savvy and -friendly, and that I love working with KMS. I just wish KMS's CalDAV was a little more fleshed out vis a vis iCal, and integrated better with the iPhone.

Search for the other CalDAV forums, and you will see that Public Folders calendars have deal-crushing limitations under KMS that group calendars being served by OS X Leopard Server do not have. One set of access rights -- the most restrictive one -- is applied to ALL public calendars regardless of how you set them on each calendar, meaning you cannot have different calendars for different groups, unless you are doing all authoring in the web client, or unless everybody can write to everything.

This limitation does not exist in group calendars served by OS X Leopard Server (which be worth mentioning but for the disparity between the way KMS and Leopard serve stuff to iCal).


Thanks for lucidly explaining this. It was very helpful. We don't currently utilize these features, so we haven't encountered this gap in our CalDAV testing. It may bite us in the butt later, though.

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Has anyone reported the "public calendar access control" issue to Kerio? This is one I didn't realize and will report it if nobody else has. It's a big deal as is pointed out and makes using public calendars difficult.
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