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njm137

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We are looking to buy a number of the above for our small organization that runs KMS. Can anyone please explain whom may already be a blackberry user how they integrate with calendar and mail. ie via the web browser or using built in mail and calendar programs that sync. And does this work effectively. Can anyone also explain what is push mail?. Ideally we would like to have a phone that can send receive mail and add delete calendar events remotely and one that uses the built in software programs within the phone as accessing the web via a web browser on the phone is extremely laborious. Thanks In advance.

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sedell

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See http://www.kerio.com/manual/kms/en/chap-notify.html for Blackberry support. It's an external service to get proper support for a Blackberry. It's come up in the forums before, and it's pretty expensive - per user is far more than the per user on KMS. See this message. We had a few people who were "do whatever it takes" types when it came to using a Blackberry. When they found out what it would cost to get Blackberries working on the network, they became much happier to learn to use Windows Mobile.

I don't know much about the iPhones, other than what comes up in the forums. I skip most of it since we have no iPhones or plans to get any, but if you do a search of the forums, you'll get plenty of results.

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cthomas

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I have three iPhones connecting to Kerio via IMAP and self signed SSL. Two of them work fine, the third, the CEO's of course, has problems. It is hard to determine exactly what his problems are because he never gives up his phone for me to look at longer than 10 minutes. However, he complains of missing emails, emails that don't download and generally having different emails on his phone than on his laptop. For the other two users, myself included, the iPhone works fine. I think the problems are related to the slowness of EDGE and the vast amounts of email he has to deal with.

Calendars are another issue. We haven't started using them yet due to lacking features (no conference room support) and severe bugs (unable to share a calendar with other users). One user does sync her personal Calendar with Outlook and her iPhone with no problems.

Most email works where the clients polls the server every few minutes and asks for new email. Push Email on the other hand is where the server tells the client that new email is available. Most Blackberry services support Push. I think you can get Push via Yahoo for iPhone. Apple has promised PUSH for Exchange servers on the new iPhone 2.0 software. Kerio hasn't announced anything about Push yet I don't think. Having the iPhone poll the server every 15 minutes is more than adequate for me.

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Pavel Dobry (Kerio)

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Kerio MailServer supports e-mail push in both IMAP and ActiveSync protocols. Unfortunately, iPhone 1.0 does not use email push with Exchange account.
Push e-mail will of course work with new iPhone 3G and 2.0.

[Updated on: Thu, 03 July 2008 16:48]

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Most important to know would be, if you're working on the iPhone 2.0 Exchange support. At the moment I'm running a setup with Zimbra OS, but some customers are requesting Exchange support for the upcoming iPhone 2.0. I know that Zimbra is going to support it and also Scalix. So, my next step would be to upgrade Zimbra or switch to Kerio. It would be nice to have something for the planing, because of migration and testing. I have a trial version of Kerio and a iPhone with firmware 2.0 running and there are several problems with the sync, especially pushing calendar entries and contacts isn't working. So, hope to get some feedback, to have another option.

[Updated on: Thu, 03 July 2008 21:12]

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Pavel Dobry (Kerio)

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The answer is already here: http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=msg&th=12858&sta rt=0

In other words, KMS will fully support new iPhone. We are not allowed to comment any beta version of 2.0 firmware. Please note that beta versions of every product usually do not have all features and could contain bugs.

[Updated on: Fri, 04 July 2008 00:13]

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Blackberries working on the network, they became much happier to learn to use Windows Mobile

Before we decided if we want to use Blackberry or Windows Mobile, we did extensive pilots on both platforms. In the end it was a clear win for Blackberry, because:

- It used 5 times less bandwidth for the same amount of mails

- Remote management (Enterprise activation, resetting phone after password loss) is a nightmare with Windows Mobile. People had to bring in their phones to get a new PKI key after a phone reset

- Remote security policies (Remote wipe, force new password etc.) are much better

- Windows Mobile has better attachment viewing capabilities, but needs more bandwith to download

Dexion AG - The Blackberry Specialists in Switzerland
https://dexionag.ch
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