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pderby

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We are getting push back from some of our Mac iCal users due to the inability of the user to edit a calendar event to move a calendar event from one calendar to another calendar when the event is sent from Kerio to the user.

Our users have a personal calendar and a work calendar. The personal calendar is a local calendar, the work calendar is a kerio shared calendar.

Does anyone know of a way to script or know of a way to edit iCal entries so the user can do things that Kerio can't, such as move a calendar event from one calendar to another or change the color for a Kerio user's shared calendar when the user only has read permission for the shared calendar?


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pderby

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Still looking for a solution after 3 months.
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Pavel Dobry (Kerio)

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Events created in CalDAV account cannot be moved to the local calendars. This is iCal limitation, not Kerio.
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pderby

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So has anyone written a script that moves the event from one calendar to another getting around the "iCal limitation"?

The users don't care if it is a Kerio problem or an Apple problem. They just want to move their calendar entries from one calendar to another.

Anyone know how to make the Kerio calendar the default instead of the non-Kerio calendar?


[Updated on: Sat, 06 December 2008 23:14]

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indigospring

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The fix is easy. Delete all local calendars and only allow calendars to be held in Kerio. You can have multiple calendars and can easily move appointments between them via the popup menu in iCal.

One way to transfer the data is to Publish it from iCal to the Kerio CalDAV service, create another new calendar (either in iCal or webmail) on the server, then use webmail's copy feature to copy all appointments from the published read-only calendar to the fresh one. Then un-publish the calendar from iCal and delete it,

Long term we should all moan to Apple. It's a really frustrating and annoying misfeature (one of many in iCal).
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pderby

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Not an easy fix for those that wish to keep their personal calendars independent of their employer's calendars. Not everyone wishes to put their medical appointments, employment interviews, colonoscopy appointments, shrink appointments, etc. on a company server.


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indigospring

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But then either they are keeping personal data on company laptops/desktops, where they should still have no expectation of privacy, or you are trying to support people joining their personal computers, configured who-knows-how and making your own life unnecessarily complicated.

The only way to move appointments between different kinds of calendar is to cut and paste.

Maybe Apple will fix this in 10.5.6, but it seems to be deliberate behaviour, even though it makes no sense to users.

[Updated on: Tue, 09 December 2008 02:46]

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pderby

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Not every company wishes to force their employees to keep personal calendars and work calendars on separate computers. Not every company feels that an employee's personal computer is a threat.

We have a number of employees that are professional computer scientists that know exactly what they are doing on both work and home computers. They have administrative rights on both. They know how to configure their machines appropriately. If these employees or any other employee are comfortable blending work and home calendars on their computer and have the skills to manager their machine, be it personal or company owned, that is just fine with us.

Hopefully, Kerio will stay neutral on how a company chooses to trust their user population and not make assumptions about a company's business practices.

We, too, hope Apple "fixes" this deficiency in CALDAV. Meanwhile, if someone knows a way to script around this deficiency or if someone writes some code to do behind the scenes copy past to move calendar events from one calendar to another, that would be great.

Also, if someone figures out a way for a user to specify the preferred calendar to receive emailed calendar invites to appear that would be great.

Maybe one of us will get some time to do scripting or utility code to get the behavior one would expect on a Mac.
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