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I know there has been extensive discussion about the client version of Mac OS X Snow Leopard and Kerio compatibility.

Unfortunately, I'm forced to upgrade a site running Kerio to Snow Leopard in the next week or so (they are currently running 10.5 10 user server, and need unlimited).

Can anyone tell me what the situation is with snow leopard server upgrade? There will be no 10.6 clients on the network at this stage.

will it;

a. not work at all
b. work with some reliability or other specific problems
c. work with no known problems, or
d. no-one has tested it at all.

Also, will the upgrade process itself break kerio? Am I better off backing up, removing it, doing the upgrade, then installing Kerio and restoring the mail store? (assuming Kerio works at all on 10.6 server)

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jason.
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My IT Indy

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If it's not listed as compatible, why do it? You might consider running VMWare Fusion in SL Server and then run CentOS as your KMS install. Or use your Leopard Server license as the KMS install inside a VM.

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I'm very curious to the status of Snow Leopard Server as well regarding Kerio, so if you find anything out please let us know! Been dying to install 10.6 Server since it was announced, and would really like to know what the estimated timetable is for Kerio and 10.6 server.
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anthony.somerset

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i would make a guess that the server side should be ok, with the exception of directory syncing.

i havent got a spare server handy or a copy of SL server to test this, but purely due to the fact that all the software works on sl client(with the exception of caldav) which is an SL client issue, i would be totally surprised if kerio has only power pc code (universal is understandable) i would reccomend if you really have to install direct, make sure rosetta is installed, otherwise best option is the vmware option.

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anthony.somerset

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i have managed to free up an iMac so that i can test SL server

while testing i shall try testing Kerio Mail Server

bear in mind that kerio already state
that Snow Leopard Server is officially NOT SUPPORTED

cant stress this enough but thought i would release my results anyway when i have them

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anthony.somerset

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just installed

server is running fine and everything operates

HOWEVER there is no authentication so you cannot login to anything whether it be admin, webmail or IMAP it will just come back authentication failed, this could be my setup but i doubt it because its a vanilla SL Server install connected to our directory with a vanilla kerio server install so there should be no settings in the system

this will be why you CANNOT upgrade to SL server until kerio release an update

Mac Xserve Intel - 2x 2.7GHz Dual Core Xeon
Leopard 10.5.8
4GB Ram
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~60 Users (varying windows and mac Exchange or IMAP)
18 iPhones
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Mac Aid

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Thanks heaps for the info. What I have elected to do is find another machine (an iMac as it happens) to run as a temporary mail server until they get it sorted.

Here's hoping it's soon.

Thanks again,

Jason
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anthony.somerset

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please dont tell me you upgraded a production machine to SL server on day 1 Confused ouch

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Mac Aid

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I haven't yet but I will next week.

Not my choice but sometimes you don't have a choice.
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anthony.somerset

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best option is install virtual box on SL server and run kerio in a VM there, i think you can mount a network share in debian that connects to the existing mailstore on your server direct

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18 iPhones
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Mac Aid

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Thanks, but I think I'll install kerio on the iMac, back up the mail store before the SL upgrade, then restore it to the iMac.

Once kerio is patched, I can then do the reverse.

Cheers,

Jason
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anthony.somerset

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yeah, use rsync it will be quicker to move the directories between machines

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Mac Aid wrote on Wed, 02 September 2009 08:02
I haven't yet but I will next week.

Not my choice but sometimes you don't have a choice.


I can empathize with that. I've been getting a little annoyed at the talk of being crazy for having to roll 10.6 out on a production unit(s) in the first month.

No offense folks, but I don't try and pretend like I know all the unique dynamics of your agency's needs/configuration/etc. - so please don't make those assumptions about anyone else's needs. The backseat IT driving is both annoying and not constructive or productive.
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gatti

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Whoever is pushing 10.6 server on a production machine is crazy. It was just released last week. I hope they are looking forward to some fun bugs and glitches.
anthony.somerset

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indeed, again we only manage our respective systems not everyone elses at the end of the day

its taken me 12 months and a few restructures to have the influence and sway to say that we are not upgrading clients for at least one month ideally until the 10.6.1 update and later with the server where i am, so i can understand when peoples hands are tied

i am glad however that apple tend to do a good job generally, i guess because its based on unix half the work has been done already over the years Wink

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Kerio 6.7.1
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18 iPhones
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