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bigmountain

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Hey guys, during the Workspace webinars, the topic of hosting multiple clients keeps coming up. While Kerio has noted this as a feature request, Big Mountain has decided to offer a special bundle to include Kerio Workspace on a virtual cloud server, a discounted rate on licensing and also on an SSL certificate. Big Mountain is a Certified Kerio Partner and we have been successfully hosting Kerio Connect for the past 5+ years. We have decided to build our own cloud which was driven by the need to host Workspace and are currently taking pre-orders. Please contact us offline if interested. Thanks!

Preferred Kerio Partner and Cloud Solutions Provider - Offering both shared and dedicated Kerio Connect hosting solutions.
Visit us at http://bigmountainmail.com
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Jarda Snajdr (Kerio)

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Hello,
although we get quite frequent inquiries about support for hosting multiple clients (domains), we don't plan add this feature in the immediate future. We believe that the way to go is to host multiple Workspace instances on separate virtual machine. This setup has many advantages - no scalability issues, isolated data stores, better reliability (no single point of failure) - and only one disadvantage - there is no single central administration interface which you could use to manage all clients.

Our priority is to improve the user-facing parts of the product. Work on usability and design, have better mobile interface, add new components for calendars and tasks, improve sharing etc.

Jarda Snajdr
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digitalcriterion

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We would also like to see this functionality, internally and for customers.

The other drawback is that you need to maintain several VMs as well.
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desoca

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More importantly it also increases our infrastructure cost which affects our bottom-line. We service a number of firms with less than 10 employees. I would really like to see this feature given higher priority.

Even if it means simply not allowing visibility of users outside one's assigned group.

This enhancement will be enough for us until full domain support, or else it would not be cost effective for us to roll this out to our wider user base.

Thank you.
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BudDurland

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FWIW, I side with the current road map. The overhead for spinning up multiple VM's is pretty negligible, as is the administriva, unless you have a client with many hundreds of users. You may end up implementing some type of reverse proxy to conserve IP space, but that's not terribly hard, either.

To me, other things are more important -- task/calendar integration with Connect, being able to tell the KWS client where synchronize files, file/document upload via FTP.

Good is better than evil because it's nicer
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Machete

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being able to tell the KWS client where synchronize files

Glad to know I am not the only one that sees this as an important feature.
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ThorstenV

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Now we are hosting Kerio Workspace in our data center:

see: kwsflyer.nm11.de

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alacratstore

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Is it all about the system where we can buy a single plan and sub-divide their storage space into multiple accounts? Am I right or your plan is something different. Pls suggests.
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ThorstenV

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alacratstore wrote on Mon, 17 September 2012 17:29
Is it all about the system where we can buy a single plan and sub-divide their storage space into multiple accounts? Am I right or your plan is something different. Pls suggests.


It is a KWS Starter Edt. (Linux VM) with 20 GB Space (10 GB for KWS) on VMWare 4.1 (redundant System) incl. Backup.
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GlennK

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Sorry but Virtual Machines/Hosts are a pain in the neck and goes against the idea of having a server that is easy to host. What if Kerio Connect required you to have a VM for every domain? That would be insane and would never pass version 1.0. If Workspace allowed hosting/multiple domains within the interface that would be another plus and step up against the competition. Make it easy, not a pain. Make it so you don't need to be a linux admin to run it. Easy=popular. The rest of it is very easy to set up and config and that's what makes it great. The VM requirement is inconsistent with that and appears to go against the goal of Workspace.
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UnifiedTechs-Brian

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Jarda Snajdr (Kerio) wrote on Mon, 28 March 2011 04:22
Hello,
and only one disadvantage - there is no single central administration interface which you could use to manage all clients.

Jarda Snajdr
Workspace Team Leader


No offense, but this is not the only disadvantage, it is not even the biggest.

The biggest disadvantage is that you need separate public IPs for each of those Virtual Machines! In this world where we are running out of ip4 public addresses the cost of them is rising and many providers are being very picky about selling them to clients no matter what the cost.

- Brian
Kerio Preferred Partner, Reseller & Hosting Provider
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GlennK

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A compromise that might help:

A single domain could be workable for some hosts if there was a way to assign admins to each space. As it is you could assign the highest privilege to a space and consider that person the admin, but the shortcoming is that since they are not a true admin they wouldn't be able to remove a user's post (content admin).
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BudDurland

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UnifiedTechs wrote on Fri, 16 November 2012 11:20

The biggest disadvantage is that you need separate public IPs for each of those Virtual Machines!


I still contend that a reverse proxy server would address that issue fairly easily.

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desoca

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Reverse proxies - another layer of complexity to maintain amongst other issues.
UnifiedTechs-Brian

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BudDurland wrote on Mon, 19 November 2012 14:56


I still contend that a reverse proxy server would address that issue fairly easily.


Sure, if you are wiling to through away the whole SSL security layer. If I am hosting clients data I want it secure from end to end which won't be possible with a reverse proxy.

- Brian
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