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Is it possible to train the SPAM filter via Outlook or Entourage? If I drag a message that should have been reported as SPAM into the "Junk Mail" folder, does that train the SPAM filter??

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cwachs wrote on Fri, 10 February 2006 18:41

Is it possible to train the SPAM filter via Outlook or Entourage? If I drag a message that should have been reported as SPAM into the "Junk Mail" folder, does that train the SPAM filter??

That is correct. When using an IMAP client, dragging a message from a folder to the Junk Email folder will mark that message as spam and train the Bayesian filter. Also moving a message from the Junk Email folder will also tell the Bayesian filter that the message is not spam.

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That is correct. When using an IMAP client, dragging a message from a folder to the Junk Email folder will mark that message as spam and train the Bayesian filter. Also moving a message from the Junk Email folder will also tell the Bayesian filter that the message is not spam.[/quote]

So, what if the Filter Status for bayesian filter is, "Active" ?
if using outlook i mark a message as spam will the bayesian filter still learn from that message when it's in the "Active" state??
can you "reset" the bayesian filter and have it start from ground zero again?
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If the status of the Bayesian filter is "Active" then it has learned enough messages and is filtering the incoming emails.
You are still training the spam filter when you mark a message in Outlook as Spam. The Bayesian filter is always learning no matter what the status is set to.
You can reset the Bayesian spam filter by doing the following:

Stop KMS,
Rename the spamassassin folder in the store directory to spamassassin.old,
Run the KMS installer,
Start KMS.
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ok, sounds good. but i was testing with outlook 2007 and moved a message from my inbox to the junk e-mail folder and went to check the statistics page in KMS admin and it stayed at 342, where it was before i moved it to the junk e-mail folder. should that not increase by one when i move an email? not sure how outlook talks to KMS to let it know that a message was spam.
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I would like to clarify something, when the Bayes filter is in Active state, it means that it has seen enough messages to start filtering, but it still needs constant training. The more messages that it sees (aka the more training you do), the more accurate the filter will become.

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ok, sounds good. but i was testing with outlook 2007 and moved a message from my inbox to the junk e-mail folder and went to check the statistics page in KMS admin and it stayed at 342, where it was before i moved it to the junk e-mail folder. should that not increase by one when i move an email? not sure how outlook talks to KMS to let it know that a message was spam.

Move the message, then take a look at the spam log. Do you see an entry like 'User xxx moved a message from the Inbox to the Junk Email folder...'? If so, the filter was trained. The filter statistics may not be updated in real time (although I thought they were).

If not, double check that you have subscribed to the Junk Email folder from within Outlook, so that when you move a message to that folder, it moves it on the server.

If you move a message and do not see the corresponding entry in the spam log, login to the Webmail interface and view the Junk Email folder. If you do not see the newly moved message, something was configured wrong with the mail client.

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linuxbox wrote on Mon, 26 February 2007 18:16

but i was testing with outlook 2007 and moved a message from my inbox to the junk e-mail folder and went to check the statistics page in KMS admin and it stayed at 342, where it was before i moved it to the junk e-mail folder. should that not increase by one when i move an email?


The counter is updated periodically every few minutes, not with every trained message.
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Kerio_ktrumbull wrote on Mon, 26 February 2007 11:35

I would like to clarify something, when the Bayes filter is in Active state, it means that it has seen enough messages to start filtering, but it still needs constant training. The more messages that it sees (aka the more training you do), the more accurate the filter will become.

Move the message, then take a look at the spam log. Do you see an entry like 'User xxx moved a message from the Inbox to the Junk Email folder...'? If so, the filter was trained. The filter statistics may not be updated in real time (although I thought they were).

If not, double check that you have subscribed to the Junk Email folder from within Outlook, so that when you move a message to that folder, it moves it on the server.

If you move a message and do not see the corresponding entry in the spam log, login to the Webmail interface and view the Junk Email folder. If you do not see the newly moved message, something was configured wrong with the mail client.


i checked the spam log and didn't find the text, "Junk Email folder" anywhere. my email client is configured with the KMS as a typical pop3 and smtp server which i guess supports IMAP as well in the outlook settings.
this is a default outlook setup from office 2007. i'll try to find out how to "subscribe" to the junk e-mail folder as i'm uncertain on that!
thanks!
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got it!!
account was set to POP3 and not IMAP!!! DOH!
thanks!
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