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glawrie

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We are evaluating Kerio as a mailserver for our small firm . We use Mac computers, and are looking for a server that can provide shared address books and calendars in addition to IMAP mail services. We use a mixture of Mail / Address Book and Entourage clients - but with a trend towards the Apple apps over time.

It is not clear from the Kerio marketing literature how well its groupware features work on non Windows software - so I would be very interested in hearing from any users of Kerio that have Mac clients and use these groupweare features. How well does the LDAP basis for shared addresses work for example??

Look forward to hearing from people to help us work out if Kerio is the one for us to trial.
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sonofcolin

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It is not clear from the Kerio marketing literature how well its groupware features work on non Windows software


Better than on windows! Try it.
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glawrie

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sonofcolin wrote on Tue, 18 July 2006 12:56

Better than on windows! Try it.
Well that is an option, but since to try it would take considerable resource here (we are a small firm, so not awash with technical bods to do such things) we are hoping to get some idea about what it is like before committing the resource. But if it looks like it could do the job, we'll have a go.

What does 'better than windows' mean? Could you give some examples?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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sonofcolin

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The better than on Windows comment is only tongue in cheek. Entourage works very well with KMS for the things you have mentioned.

In all honesty, you really need to try it for the full trial period before you make a decision. What works for one company may not work for another. As it is such an important investment, you owe it yourself to give it a thorough evaluation on the products current (not future) specs.

The opinions you get on a forum may not reflect the reality of how a product woks in your environment.
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glawrie

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sonofcolin wrote on Tue, 18 July 2006 13:37

Entourage works very well with KMS for the things you have mentioned.

Do you know if the Apple Mail / Address Book / iCal system works as well as Entourage for these things?

We will of course try out Kerio before we purchase, but to configure a server and migrate clients over to test Kerio would be a big job. So iI'd like to gain some confidence that the effort will be worthwhile before leaping...
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We will of course try out Kerio before we purchase, but to configure a server and migrate clients over to test Kerio would be a big job


That isn't a good idea. Keep your users on the old mail system until you are ready to switch. Setup a test domain for testing.

Apple mail works fine with IMAP. Address book and ical also works as advertised.
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glawrie

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sonofcolin wrote on Tue, 18 July 2006 14:19

That isn't a good idea. Keep your users on the old mail system until you are ready to switch. Setup a test domain for testing.

Yes - we'd have to keep the old system running - but we've learnt from past experience that you have to actually use the trial system as you would normally to work out if group type functions work - which means migrating (or at least replicating) three accounts on the trial server. That way you also find out what happens when you try to migrate from old to new...
sonofcolin wrote on Tue, 18 July 2006 14:19

Apple mail works fine with IMAP. Address book and ical also works as advertised.

Sorry to be pedantic - but do you know if it is possible to have shared address books with AB? I have seen that Kerio does this via LDAP - but I'm not familiar with how this works in practice.
Our current server (CGP) also offers LDAP address book features, but this is theoretical rather than practical - the fields used by CGP don't map to AB very well, and LDAP look up is awkward (you can't browse the LDAP list - only run searches against it. You also can't amend the LdAP entries via AB.).

If Kerio is different, how so?

Thanks for whatever help you can provide on this.
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Brian (GFI/Kerio)

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Address book does not support shared address books. If you have configured shared Address Books in webmail, AB will query these shared address books using LDAP.

We also support the exchange synchronization feature of Apple Address Book. There is a limitation however that it will only synchronize your personal address book. It will not synchronize public or shared address books. These types of Address Books are only accessible through LDAP.

Configuration of the Exchange synchronization is available on this link: http://www.kerio.com/manual/macsup/en/ch04s02.html

Entourage 2004 offers full support of shared and public address books. The data is synchronized to your desktop so you can browse the contact list, as opposed to generating a query.

Brian Carmichael
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