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caramello

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I've installed for my first time KMS connected to AD domain.

I have some internal groups managed by AD schema and I want to restrict them so only people in our domain can send emails to them.

I have tried to use the restrictions settings but when I set it KMS block all individuals who are in that group.

Is there a solution or a rule to prevent spamming?

Thanks.

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[Updated on: Mon, 04 September 2006 21:12]

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winkelman

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You can setup users so they're only able to send/receive emails to/from their own domain only. This what you mean?
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caramello

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True, but in this condition the groups does not work well.

Suppose that:

Active directory

Users:
User1
User2
User3

Groups:
Group1 (members User1, User2)
Group2 (members User2, User3)

Now I enable the Group2 to send/receive emails to/from their own domain only.

In this condition the User2 can't send email outside the domain.
My goal is to stop only the emails received from outside.

Is there a solution?

Regards
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winkelman

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There is no straightforward way to limit users from recieving outside mail, while they still can send to outside.

If this applies to everyone, you can create a manual spam rule that tags everything as spam. You can then even configure all spam to be rejected, so it doesn't get deliverd to the users spam box. But this rule would apply to everyone.

Another thing: you could create a mail rule that deletes all mail from outside. This rule would need to be created for every user manually through their mail filters through webmail. The user could turn this rule off him/herself, so you could not really enforce this.
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caramello

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Sorry,

my goal is to stop only the emails received to a specific internal group from outside.

Is valid the spam solution suggested for users?

Thanks
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winkelman

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Ah, now I see. You would like to be able to create a group that cannot be mailed to from outside. A long standing 'issue'. Problem is a misunderstanding of what a group is and is used for (in KMS).

The 'can only mail internally' option in a group is meant as a way to distribute these rights to the members of the group and does not imply the group itself. There are pro's and con's to this behaviour, but it certainly is ambigues and thus unclear.

There is currently no way to do what you'd like besides creating a mailing list. Setup in a certain way, a mailing list 'behaves' the same as a group-as-a-distribution-list and for mailing lists you can control who can send mail to it: only it's members. If that's to restrictive, then you're out of luck AFAIK.

I believe this issue is going to be resolved in some upcoming KMS version, but I'm not sure when.

(You can find long discussions on this in older topics.)
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caramello

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This is a big problem.

So if I want to use KMS and I want to solve this problem I must insert a new server between KMS and Internet to delete the mail sent to internal group from outside.

Funny.

Bye
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winkelman

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I'd suggest not telling the outside world the name of the group... ;-)
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Alain

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caramello wrote on Tue, 05 September 2006 15:25

Sorry,

my goal is to stop only the emails received to a specific internal group from outside.
...


I had the same problem, and we decided to use mailing lists with moderators to control external posting.

[Updated on: Wed, 06 September 2006 12:13]

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caramello

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For me is not a correct solution because domain users not included in a particular groups have to use all groups available.

If I use the mailing list external users from ML must be authorized any times.

http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=msg&goto=38736&p l_view=0&S=d4db66e24efc9011319b1524f85f2802#msg_38736

Bye

[Updated on: Wed, 06 September 2006 11:58]

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Alain

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It is less convenient, but on the other hand you can also control that your AD users are using group posting efficiently

[Updated on: Wed, 06 September 2006 12:16]

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Pavel Dobry (Kerio)

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There is also quite simple solution with using custom spam rules.
Just make sure all your clients are allowed in SMTP relay settings. Spam filter is not applied to local (trusted) senders by default unless you enable it. Therefore, all incoming emails to certain addresses (or groups) can be rejected by custom spam rules. Local users can send emails to these addresses with no limitation as such emails are not checked by Spam Filter.
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mwesten

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Unfortunately this doesn't work for groups that are placed in a bcc field.
Within the Custom Spam Rules you cannot define the bcc for field.
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